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Sept. 10, 2024
201. Be Your Free Self: Katherine Morgan Schafler [reads] “Big Magic”
Katherine Morgan Schafler reads from Elizabeth Gilbert’s “Big Magic” and discusses creativity, perfectionism, and trusting yourself.
We explore how we can balance striving for excellence while also letting go of control, and why we should show up for the work even when inspiration seems far off.
Today’s guest, Katherine Morgan Schafler, is a psychotherapist, writer, and former on-site therapist at Google. She holds degrees from UC Berkeley and Columbia University and is certified by the Association for Spirituality and Psychotherapy in New York City.
Katherine Morgan Schafler reads two pages from Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert. [reading begins at 23:48]
Hear us discuss:
- “All people really want is a connection—to be seen, to see others, and connect.” [04:16]
- “We don't understand the difference between self-worth and self-esteem.” [15:26]
- “Progress is not linear; sometimes it’s two steps forward, seventeen steps back.” [38:07]
- “There are many right ways to do something.” [19:47]
- “If we can just keep showing up day after day after day, something will bloom.” [30:04]
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Resources:
Katherine Morgan Schafler | Website | LinkedIn | The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control
Elizabeth Gilbert | Big Magic
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