March 22, 2022

93. How to Be an Outlier on the Inside: Gina Jeneroux [reads] ‘Switch’

93. How to Be an Outlier on the Inside: Gina Jeneroux [reads] ‘Switch’

Gina Jeneroux reading from Chip and Dan Heath’s Switch and discussing how to maintain your own spirit.

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Gina Jeneroux is the Chief Learning Officer at the Bank of Montreal, and she’s on a mission to change how her colleagues - and eventually, the world - learn and prepare for the future. 


Gina reads two pages from ‘Switch’ by Chip Heath and Dan Heath. [reading begins at 12:10


Hear us discuss: 

“It’s not just about being different for different sake, but rather about driving a different kind of impact.” [4:02] | How to prepare for failure. [17:49] | Breaking away from formal learning. [21:27] | Different areas of skills: “The problems we need to solve in the coming years are different from the ones we’ve seen before.” [25:02] | Navigating a world full of ambiguity. [29:38] |“Our biggest limiter is ourselves.” [34:41]